
Dr.Gargoyle
Sep 10, 06:46 AM
It appears I will be living in a cardboard box under a bridge sooner than I expected. :) All these juicy new Apples will put me in the poor house!
I was planing to get a MacPro rev. B, but now I might wait for Clovertown. Eight cores is....a LOT.:eek:
I was planing to get a MacPro rev. B, but now I might wait for Clovertown. Eight cores is....a LOT.:eek:

JAT
Apr 11, 12:05 PM
Try proofing before posting articles.
"especially when there it is possible to be an officially licensed AirPlay partner."
They do appreciate notice of such things, but you could try using a friendly tone.
True, but if you've just spent �450 on the receiver and another �100 or so on speakers you'd maybe resent having to shell out more for AirPlay.
I've never quite understood the mindset that '$600 is ok for a PS3, $300 is ok for an iPod Touch, $2000 is ok for a pieced gaming rig, $200+$30/month forever is ok for a smartphone....but spend another $30 to get a necessary accessory??? You bastards are ripping me off!!' :rolleyes:
Also, people should really plan ahead and not expect others (say, Apple) to accomplish setting up their home for them. Expecting and whining about getting any speaker and any song on any device to communicate without YOU having a bit of forethought is silly. If you have 10 rooms with speakers, then set them up right with potential 'friends' iPods' hookup somewhere. Put your iTunes server on the most intelligent computer for whole house audio and set it up appropriately. You should be happy it no longer costs $10000+ to do such a thing. Whether it's a few AEXs or other means, you can get what you want, go do it.
"especially when there it is possible to be an officially licensed AirPlay partner."
They do appreciate notice of such things, but you could try using a friendly tone.
True, but if you've just spent �450 on the receiver and another �100 or so on speakers you'd maybe resent having to shell out more for AirPlay.
I've never quite understood the mindset that '$600 is ok for a PS3, $300 is ok for an iPod Touch, $2000 is ok for a pieced gaming rig, $200+$30/month forever is ok for a smartphone....but spend another $30 to get a necessary accessory??? You bastards are ripping me off!!' :rolleyes:
Also, people should really plan ahead and not expect others (say, Apple) to accomplish setting up their home for them. Expecting and whining about getting any speaker and any song on any device to communicate without YOU having a bit of forethought is silly. If you have 10 rooms with speakers, then set them up right with potential 'friends' iPods' hookup somewhere. Put your iTunes server on the most intelligent computer for whole house audio and set it up appropriately. You should be happy it no longer costs $10000+ to do such a thing. Whether it's a few AEXs or other means, you can get what you want, go do it.

citizenzen
Apr 21, 09:21 PM
Dear government, at somepoint sinss the 18th centory, we've become completely incapable of taking care of owwselves.
There's actually a good reason for that. Chick it out (http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfarm4.htm) ...
1850
Total population: 23,191,786
Farm population: 11,680,000 (estimated)
Farmers made up 64% of labor force
Number of farms: 1,449,000
Average acres: 203
1860 Farmers made up 53% of labor force
1870 Farmers made up 49% of labor force
1880 Farmers made up 49% of labor force
1890 Farmers made up 43% of labor force
1890 Farmers made up 43% of labor force
1900 Farmers made up 38% of labor force
1910 Farmers made up 31% of labor force
1920 Farmers made up 27% of labor force
1930 Farmers made up 21% of labor force
1940 Farmers made up 18% of labor force
1950 Farmers made up 12% of labor force
1960 Farmers made up 8.3% of labor force
1970 Farmers made up 4.6% of labor force
1980 Farmers made up 3.4% of labor force
1990 Farmers made up 2.6% of labor force
That trend might explain a few things.
There's actually a good reason for that. Chick it out (http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfarm4.htm) ...
1850
Total population: 23,191,786
Farm population: 11,680,000 (estimated)
Farmers made up 64% of labor force
Number of farms: 1,449,000
Average acres: 203
1860 Farmers made up 53% of labor force
1870 Farmers made up 49% of labor force
1880 Farmers made up 49% of labor force
1890 Farmers made up 43% of labor force
1890 Farmers made up 43% of labor force
1900 Farmers made up 38% of labor force
1910 Farmers made up 31% of labor force
1920 Farmers made up 27% of labor force
1930 Farmers made up 21% of labor force
1940 Farmers made up 18% of labor force
1950 Farmers made up 12% of labor force
1960 Farmers made up 8.3% of labor force
1970 Farmers made up 4.6% of labor force
1980 Farmers made up 3.4% of labor force
1990 Farmers made up 2.6% of labor force
That trend might explain a few things.

seenew
Jul 15, 04:24 AM
:( And I thought I was hot stuff with my 2GHz Core Duo iMac... Less than a month old!
Oh well, that's the way it always goes...
What's the probability of being able to drop one of the newer, more powerful chips into my iMac sometime in the future? I mean, I've got 2GB RAM and a 500GB HDD, and a 256MB video card... A newer processor down the line should work well, right?
Oh well, that's the way it always goes...
What's the probability of being able to drop one of the newer, more powerful chips into my iMac sometime in the future? I mean, I've got 2GB RAM and a 500GB HDD, and a 256MB video card... A newer processor down the line should work well, right?

ericinboston
Apr 29, 09:33 AM
There are two groups of Apple consumers:
Group 1: The people who jumped on the Apple bandwagon in or after Y2K
Group 2: The people who have been loyal Apple consumers prior to Y2K. I belong to this group.
Prior to jumping on the bandwagon, many of the folks in Group 1 and the rest of the world made fun of the folks in Group 2. Group 2 people were often considered crazy cultists with a "sad fetish" for Apple (it took a certain type of individual to recognize the insane greatness of Apple products). Group 2 people were also considered stupid/misguided for sticking with Apple. Many of the people in Group 1 and the rest of the world most likely agreed with Michael Dell when he said Apple should close down.
Fast forward to today. Apple now generates more revenues AND profits than Microsoft. This is an important milestone for the Group 2 folks for the simple reason that Apple has finally won the technology war. It may have lost the PC battle but Apple is now indisputably the technology innovation champion. And it became the champion WITHOUT any benefit of a monopolistic position that Microsoft had over the PC operating system for decades.
When I hear comments from people dismissing the significance of Apple surpassing MSFT in profits, I know that these people belong to either Group 1 or are MSFT fanboys. They will never understand the blood, sweat, and tears that Apple and its cult members had to go through to reach this point.
Congratulations, Apple, for reaching the pinnacle. Thanks for doing what you do best: making insanely great consumer technology.
There is just so much wrong with 100% of your post. I can't even begin, nor will I spend time, contradicting every sentence.
In short, there is no war between Apple and Microsoft...nor has been for decades. Also, you think Apple is not a monopoly? Apple makes the hardware, the OS, the apps, and Appstore, and APPROVES what apps consumers can purchase. No...that's not a monopoly. No, sir.
Group 1: The people who jumped on the Apple bandwagon in or after Y2K
Group 2: The people who have been loyal Apple consumers prior to Y2K. I belong to this group.
Prior to jumping on the bandwagon, many of the folks in Group 1 and the rest of the world made fun of the folks in Group 2. Group 2 people were often considered crazy cultists with a "sad fetish" for Apple (it took a certain type of individual to recognize the insane greatness of Apple products). Group 2 people were also considered stupid/misguided for sticking with Apple. Many of the people in Group 1 and the rest of the world most likely agreed with Michael Dell when he said Apple should close down.
Fast forward to today. Apple now generates more revenues AND profits than Microsoft. This is an important milestone for the Group 2 folks for the simple reason that Apple has finally won the technology war. It may have lost the PC battle but Apple is now indisputably the technology innovation champion. And it became the champion WITHOUT any benefit of a monopolistic position that Microsoft had over the PC operating system for decades.
When I hear comments from people dismissing the significance of Apple surpassing MSFT in profits, I know that these people belong to either Group 1 or are MSFT fanboys. They will never understand the blood, sweat, and tears that Apple and its cult members had to go through to reach this point.
Congratulations, Apple, for reaching the pinnacle. Thanks for doing what you do best: making insanely great consumer technology.
There is just so much wrong with 100% of your post. I can't even begin, nor will I spend time, contradicting every sentence.
In short, there is no war between Apple and Microsoft...nor has been for decades. Also, you think Apple is not a monopoly? Apple makes the hardware, the OS, the apps, and Appstore, and APPROVES what apps consumers can purchase. No...that's not a monopoly. No, sir.

Prof.
Mar 23, 04:54 PM
Always one in a bunch who brings up a personal experience to shock people into shutting up. My sister was eaten by a hyena. No hyena jokes please.
:mad:If MacRumors didn't have a rule stating no personal attacks, I'd ream you a new *******.
:mad:If MacRumors didn't have a rule stating no personal attacks, I'd ream you a new *******.

Kingsly
Oct 27, 12:09 PM
Grrr. Doesn't greenpeace have something better to deal with, like all these diesel Semi-turcks driving up and down the 5 freeway? Doesn't greenpeace have private jets? Boats? Cars, trucks, etc? Those all pollute the environment far more than a MacBook.
I think something should be done for the environment. I care deeply for the children in china who get to dismantle toxic products (notice my location? You're speaking to a big human rights activist here). I just think the changes should be made by someone who is sane.
People don't understand what freedoms truly are. It doesn't mean you get to say and do whatever you want wherever you want - that's anarchy, and anarchy is bad... unless you're the biggest, strongest and most brutal. Freedom of speech really means you can't be jailed or otherwise punished by the government for saying what you want in a pulic arena.
... even then there are instances where you can be jailed or cited for saying something outrageously obscene or otherwise dangerous to public health/safety.
People need to read the constitution (http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html) more. The rights guaranteed are surprisingly few, and none of them are absolute.
I think something should be done for the environment. I care deeply for the children in china who get to dismantle toxic products (notice my location? You're speaking to a big human rights activist here). I just think the changes should be made by someone who is sane.
People don't understand what freedoms truly are. It doesn't mean you get to say and do whatever you want wherever you want - that's anarchy, and anarchy is bad... unless you're the biggest, strongest and most brutal. Freedom of speech really means you can't be jailed or otherwise punished by the government for saying what you want in a pulic arena.
... even then there are instances where you can be jailed or cited for saying something outrageously obscene or otherwise dangerous to public health/safety.
People need to read the constitution (http://www.archives.gov/national-archives-experience/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html) more. The rights guaranteed are surprisingly few, and none of them are absolute.

MacAddict1978
Apr 30, 04:08 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_2 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.0.2 Mobile/8H7 Safari/6533.18.5)
Neither will be redesigned next year. Look at the length of time Apple stuck with the previous design. There are still a few years left to this "look."
No offense, but it's rather likely the following revision will launch a refined design. (It's usually done in the fall refresh historically.) This design is rather old and still fashions the old poly carbonite white i-Mac design. Changing the material to unibody aluminum was just a material change that gave it a "newer more modern" look, but it still wasn't a full on redeux. The last major complete redesign was when it went from the iLamp to this form factor.
Though maybe 1 more year.... not quite sure what more than can do with the design except maybe ditch the entire bezzle for 21.5-27" of sexy screen.
Neither will be redesigned next year. Look at the length of time Apple stuck with the previous design. There are still a few years left to this "look."
No offense, but it's rather likely the following revision will launch a refined design. (It's usually done in the fall refresh historically.) This design is rather old and still fashions the old poly carbonite white i-Mac design. Changing the material to unibody aluminum was just a material change that gave it a "newer more modern" look, but it still wasn't a full on redeux. The last major complete redesign was when it went from the iLamp to this form factor.
Though maybe 1 more year.... not quite sure what more than can do with the design except maybe ditch the entire bezzle for 21.5-27" of sexy screen.

Chupa Chupa
Sep 14, 08:30 AM
Not sure why people would get excited about an iCamera. There are many excellent DSLRs out now from companies that have a lot more expertise in building cameras than Apple. I'd rather have a Canon Rebel XT or maybe that new Pentax.
AidenShaw
May 3, 01:57 PM
And would the same setup work in bootcamp (ie using eyefinity)?
Probably, but it might depend on whether you can download the Windows 7 drivers from ATI, or whether you have to use Apple's dual boot drivers. (ATI's drivers would be much more likely to support all of the GPU features.)
Is TB able to have both channels send (or receive) at the same time?
Your question should be "can TBolt 'team' two channels for double bandwidth on one connection"?
For your question, the answer is "yes" if you can have two simultaneous 10 Gb/sec links. For my version, the answer is yes if you can have one 20 Gb/sec link.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20036002-1.html
Yes and anyway first you have to put it out there for other companies to make stuff for it. Business class 101 :rolleyes:
Shipping sometime this summer - so the answer is "no, there are no TBolt devices available to buy".
The real worry about this fact, though, is that no Apples have been tested with openly purchased TBolt peripherals. I wonder how many software updates, firmware revisions, or motherboard replacements will be needed before TBolt devices work reliably without kernel panics.
Probably, but it might depend on whether you can download the Windows 7 drivers from ATI, or whether you have to use Apple's dual boot drivers. (ATI's drivers would be much more likely to support all of the GPU features.)
Is TB able to have both channels send (or receive) at the same time?
Your question should be "can TBolt 'team' two channels for double bandwidth on one connection"?
For your question, the answer is "yes" if you can have two simultaneous 10 Gb/sec links. For my version, the answer is yes if you can have one 20 Gb/sec link.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20036002-1.html
Yes and anyway first you have to put it out there for other companies to make stuff for it. Business class 101 :rolleyes:
Shipping sometime this summer - so the answer is "no, there are no TBolt devices available to buy".
The real worry about this fact, though, is that no Apples have been tested with openly purchased TBolt peripherals. I wonder how many software updates, firmware revisions, or motherboard replacements will be needed before TBolt devices work reliably without kernel panics.

cube
Mar 30, 12:35 PM
If that's not true, then where were you hearing the term "app store" used before apple trademarked it? No question there are multiple stores selling apps now, but if it was a generic term then there should be examples of use before the trademark filing. Example?
I didn't need to hear it before. It was always generic.
I didn't need to hear it before. It was always generic.

Mattie Num Nums
Apr 19, 09:18 AM
+1
While I didn't buy my HTC Android because it "looked nice," I did buy it because it was the most iPhone-like phone experience at Sprint at the time. I now pay for that decision everyday (iOS 1.0 puts Android 2.2 to shame) and cannot wait for my contract to be over. Steve Jobs would put someone's head on a pike in front of 1 Infinite Loop if Apple ever released an OS this half-baked. Say what you will about Apple's walled garden, but the Android market is more like a flea market complete with grifters. I've given up buying apps after too many that caused frequent crashes.
Verizon iPhone 5, you cannot arrive soon enough.
iOS 1 puts Android 2.2 to shame?
Now you are just talking out of your @ss. In all honesty the difference between iOS and Android is so subtle.
While I didn't buy my HTC Android because it "looked nice," I did buy it because it was the most iPhone-like phone experience at Sprint at the time. I now pay for that decision everyday (iOS 1.0 puts Android 2.2 to shame) and cannot wait for my contract to be over. Steve Jobs would put someone's head on a pike in front of 1 Infinite Loop if Apple ever released an OS this half-baked. Say what you will about Apple's walled garden, but the Android market is more like a flea market complete with grifters. I've given up buying apps after too many that caused frequent crashes.
Verizon iPhone 5, you cannot arrive soon enough.
iOS 1 puts Android 2.2 to shame?
Now you are just talking out of your @ss. In all honesty the difference between iOS and Android is so subtle.

cube
Apr 22, 01:57 PM
An Audi R8 doesn't have any heated seats but a Honda Civic does so that means that an Audi R8 must look bad correct? So why would someone buy an Audi R8 instead of a Honda Civic? :rolleyes:
Nice job ignoring the HP Envy.
Why am I even bothering?
I heard the name HP Envy, but I never bothered looking what it is. So yes, I ignore it.
So, if there's no option to have heated seats in the Audi, that looks bad.
Nice job ignoring the HP Envy.
Why am I even bothering?
I heard the name HP Envy, but I never bothered looking what it is. So yes, I ignore it.
So, if there's no option to have heated seats in the Audi, that looks bad.

*LTD*
Apr 30, 01:12 PM
Apple's market share is growing but the fact that they supposedly (according to other posts) sell 90% of the computers that cost more than $1000 indicates that they are never going to really own the *********, lowest end of the market.
fixed.
All you need is the cream of the market. And everyone else tries to follow.
Apple's penalty for losing the market to cheap box assemblers hawking Windows:
The most profitable PC maker in the world, that is the Gold Standard of personal computing with Macs + OS X.
I don't see the problem. Seems SJ made the right choice from the very beginning by using a closed licensing model. Look at the amazing differentiation between Apple and Everyone Else. And others are trying that EXACT SAME differentiation (but without the guts to actually go all-in with it) and losing. Check out the failed Dell Adamo line. Dell *tried* to Apple-ify the experience. Except for the fact that they had nothing to do with the very company that actually makes the OS it's supposed to run, other than a licensing agreement. It doesn't work that way.
Now HP is trying it with WebOS. But Im not sure if they know how "to say 'no' to a thousand things and say 'yes' to that one special idea." It's all based on philosophy and attitude when you envision how everyday folks are supposed to interact with tech. Most tech companies out there don't have a grasp on it.
fixed.
All you need is the cream of the market. And everyone else tries to follow.
Apple's penalty for losing the market to cheap box assemblers hawking Windows:
The most profitable PC maker in the world, that is the Gold Standard of personal computing with Macs + OS X.
I don't see the problem. Seems SJ made the right choice from the very beginning by using a closed licensing model. Look at the amazing differentiation between Apple and Everyone Else. And others are trying that EXACT SAME differentiation (but without the guts to actually go all-in with it) and losing. Check out the failed Dell Adamo line. Dell *tried* to Apple-ify the experience. Except for the fact that they had nothing to do with the very company that actually makes the OS it's supposed to run, other than a licensing agreement. It doesn't work that way.
Now HP is trying it with WebOS. But Im not sure if they know how "to say 'no' to a thousand things and say 'yes' to that one special idea." It's all based on philosophy and attitude when you envision how everyday folks are supposed to interact with tech. Most tech companies out there don't have a grasp on it.

cdallen
Mar 29, 11:25 AM
I'm surprised they even opened this up for conversation in a mac forum

Evangelion
Sep 9, 11:05 AM
In the case of the Napa(32) chipset
There is no "Napa chipset". Like I said, Napa is a hardware-platfom, composed to CPU (Yonah), chipset (Intel Express 945) and WLAN ()Intel PRO/Wireless). The amount of RAM might be limited due to timing-issues and the like.
There is no "Napa chipset". Like I said, Napa is a hardware-platfom, composed to CPU (Yonah), chipset (Intel Express 945) and WLAN ()Intel PRO/Wireless). The amount of RAM might be limited due to timing-issues and the like.

iStudentUK
Apr 11, 07:39 AM
Why not to imperial?
Because metric is better.
Be happy I stopped short of asking for SI units! It's a pleasant 292K outside today. :D
Because metric is better.
Be happy I stopped short of asking for SI units! It's a pleasant 292K outside today. :D

daneoni
Aug 31, 09:03 PM
WHo cares, frankly i'm tired of all these Apple rumor crap. Its been three tuesdays in a row and we havent seen anything yet. Its been almost a year and we have no new iPods.
New resolution: I'll buy something when i need it. No more holding out for PowerBook G5 Tuesdays.......Psych!
PS I love my PowerBook!
New resolution: I'll buy something when i need it. No more holding out for PowerBook G5 Tuesdays.......Psych!
PS I love my PowerBook!

4God
Aug 28, 12:12 PM
I think I'll just purchase a Core 2 Duo myself and drop it in my iMac.
Conroe, right?
Conroe, right?
whateverandever
Mar 23, 05:21 PM
People who speed and drive under the influence make me sick. Pull the apps. And when you catch the scum, throw them in jail and take away their licence. The don't deserve to walk among us.
So... you're calling everyone who's ever gone over the speed limit scum that is worth of jail? Chances are good you'd fall into that category as well, even if you only accidentally went 1mph over the speed limit -- breaking the law is breaking the law.
So... you're calling everyone who's ever gone over the speed limit scum that is worth of jail? Chances are good you'd fall into that category as well, even if you only accidentally went 1mph over the speed limit -- breaking the law is breaking the law.
milo
Sep 5, 06:11 PM
Read my previous post :)
I did. It was about connecting AV cables to the TV. Which was covered in the pic.
Please, for the love of God, start making some sense.
By using the BOX with the HARD DRIVE next to the TV!!
They're going to use a stripped down box connected to a TELEVISION to do things like send email and surf the web??? :eek: By making that box a full fledged computer, you just tripled the price at least. What a horrible idea. If you're going to spend the money on a computer, why not make it useful as a computer instead of wasting money by using it only to play back TV programs? And with your proposal, how does someone watch TV while someone else is surfing the web?
I did. It was about connecting AV cables to the TV. Which was covered in the pic.
Please, for the love of God, start making some sense.
By using the BOX with the HARD DRIVE next to the TV!!
They're going to use a stripped down box connected to a TELEVISION to do things like send email and surf the web??? :eek: By making that box a full fledged computer, you just tripled the price at least. What a horrible idea. If you're going to spend the money on a computer, why not make it useful as a computer instead of wasting money by using it only to play back TV programs? And with your proposal, how does someone watch TV while someone else is surfing the web?
amac4me
Sep 19, 02:51 PM
It's just a matter of time before other movie studios come aboard and offer their movies for download.
x98jacobs3
May 3, 11:56 AM
This from Intel's Technology Brief on Thunderbolt Technology:
Users can add high-performance features to
their PC over a cable, daisy chaining one after another, up to a total
of 7 devices, 1 or 2 of which can be high-resolution DisplayPort
v1.1a displays (depending on the controller configuration in the host
PC).
So does this mean 3 external monitors once we can daisy chain? (I'm assuming one is the internal display.)
Users can add high-performance features to
their PC over a cable, daisy chaining one after another, up to a total
of 7 devices, 1 or 2 of which can be high-resolution DisplayPort
v1.1a displays (depending on the controller configuration in the host
PC).
So does this mean 3 external monitors once we can daisy chain? (I'm assuming one is the internal display.)
bdj21ya
Sep 14, 08:55 AM
Surely they wouldn't have a whole invite just for an MBP update either? Although this board seems obsessed with Merom MBP's, replacing a chip in a laptop really isn't that exciting.
I'm hoping for a completely new product range of some sort.
Ditto on the chip thing. The chip does NOT make THAT BIG a difference! Spend your energy on working a few extra hours so you can pay for a RAM upgrade or a 7200 RPM hard drive. Those two upgrades will make more of a performance difference, and my guess is that overall battery life will not be all that different, but we'll see when the machines come out.
To be honest, I think you need to look at the nature of the invite (e.g. how many people it was sent to, how large is the event venue). I could easily see this event being for just an Aperture update. I also don't see any reason to wait for an event to make a minor processor upgrade to the pro laptops. They could just as likely do it today.
I'm hoping for a completely new product range of some sort.
Ditto on the chip thing. The chip does NOT make THAT BIG a difference! Spend your energy on working a few extra hours so you can pay for a RAM upgrade or a 7200 RPM hard drive. Those two upgrades will make more of a performance difference, and my guess is that overall battery life will not be all that different, but we'll see when the machines come out.
To be honest, I think you need to look at the nature of the invite (e.g. how many people it was sent to, how large is the event venue). I could easily see this event being for just an Aperture update. I also don't see any reason to wait for an event to make a minor processor upgrade to the pro laptops. They could just as likely do it today.
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